The holidays are coming up and with them often come waves of anxiety about the relationships we have with the people we see in November and December.
In this episode, Sterling talks about the danger of losing our peace and wallowing in worry or anxiety and what we can do instead.
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Welcome to the Made for Greatness podcast. I’m your host, Sterling Jaquith and today we’re gonna talk about how life is too short for toxic relationships and the holidays are coming up. And of course, you know, I wrote an entire book called Be Mary How to Avoid Anxiety and Depression during the Holidays. And we have a lot of holiday related podcast episodes or relationship podcast episodes. So I will have our team pull together a list of them and then put them in the show notes of this episode so you can reference them. One is called Difficult Relationships and one is called Acceptance versus Indifference. And I think if you have challenging relationships with people that you’re gonna see over the holidays, absolutely make the time to go listen to them. So as I was getting ready for this, I thought, Okay, well like what’s something new? Because every year I’m gonna wanna talk about our relationships before the holidays. And I think what I wanna say this year is life is just too short to let someone else steal your peace.
This has come up a lot for me, really having moved to Northern Idaho. First of all, they’re a little nervous about the world ending up here, and I’ve just never been that way. I’ve never really thought much about it. So it’s just interesting to see that kind of culture up here. And my friends are really awesome. Like they’re not nuts. They’re like a tempered way of preparing for disaster and very deep, deeply faithful Catholic families. I really enjoy them. And then the other thing that happened was I created a TikTok account for my business, the business coaching I do. And when I created it, I would go in and, and make these TikTok videos around the Made for Business Society and the Mary Mastermind. And, and I’ve been enjoying it, but I didn’t go look at TikTok for a while. I actually just went in and did the videos. And then I noticed that some videos were performing well and some weren’t. And so I thought, Well, I’m gonna go look and see what videos are on TikTok. And that was my first experience with it. And I see now that it is an incredibly seductive place. The way that I did not feel super pulled into Instagram and Facebook. It totally pulled me in and I don’t know what everyone else is watching, but very quickly, TikTok figured out that I like business videos, real estate investing, ADHD authoritarian parenting tips, authoritative parenting tips. It kind of cultivates really quickly what you like and then it shows you exactly what you like. And as I followed business people and finance people and real estate, I began seeing a lot of graphs of things. And then I caught myself feeling a little more anxious than normal. And you know, I’ve shared before that I tend to suffer from depression, not anxiety, but I was feeling anxious and it was very clear to me that these TikTok videos were just jacking up my brain. And I think I caught it soon enough to just be like, Oh, don’t look at those . That has not been a part of my life. But between, I think living up here and then watching some of these videos that were just giving a lot of doom and gloom information, conflicting doom and gloom information by the way, not consistent. So it was all over the place. I was feeling anxious about being prepared for something either in our business or with my family or food or things like that. And I caught myself and I was just like, You know what, Sterling, I have no idea what’s gonna happen. We don’t know any of these things, and I don’t even wanna speak them out loud cuz probably none of them are true. So I don’t wanna add to anybody else’s anxiety, a whole bunch of scenarios. And I just thought it didn’t matter. I cannot predict the future. There have always been challenging times ahead, even if we don’t know the timeline and what God asks of us is to live with peace. So in all scenarios, the punchline is the same, is to live with peace. And no matter what happens, I wanna become a saint. I wanna live with peace. I wanna lead my husband and my children and all of you to heaven. And I don’t want to waste time being afraid. And that feeling that I was experiencing, which was kind of new for me, this, this just kind of feeling of background worry. I just thought that’s how some of you feel about the difficult relationships in your life. You’re kind of like always chewing on things about your mom or always chewing on things about your sister or your cousin or the people that you’re gonna have to see that you don’t ordinarily see. And you chewing on it is the same thing as your brain watching five to 62nd TikTok videos and your brain is like swipe, swipe, but it’s doing it with its own stories and it’s creating anxiety and worry and it’s building up in your body and it’s literally stealing your peace right now. Even though nothing has happened, nothing has changed, and you’re not even in the same room as that person that you’re worrying about. And I want you to get to where I got to where I was just like, No, that’s enough. God did not give me a spirit of fear, but of peace, love, and self-control. And it’s the same thing with those relationships, man. Either decide that you’re gonna do the work to improve them or let it go. And let me break down those two options cuz within those two options or a couple sub options, okay? So for example, my husband and I, very strong personalities, we have to learn how to communicate with each other better, right? That is not one of the relationships where I’m gonna go, Oh, this is a hard relationship. I’m just gonna let it go. I’m gonna work on that relationship. And so I’m gonna stop complaining about it. I’m gonna stop thinking, Oh no, I can’t do anything about this. He’s so difficult to live with. I’m gonna roll up my sleeves and I’m gonna read some communication books. I’m gonna learn about psychology. I’m gonna read ful and sheen in the sacrament of marriage, and I’m just gonna educate myself and learn because I’m willing to put in the time to improve that relationship. So worrying, chewing on it, not on the table, are we gonna work on it or not? Okay? So there’s work on it and you might have a friendship that has turned sour or suddenly you just kind of feel bitter or yucky every time you see this friend. I just want you to stare at that face on and just go, Hey, am I gonna work on this or not? Am I gonna work on it to improve it? Okay, that’s option number one. And obviously depending on the relationship, you could decide how much time and effort is worth putting into that. Option number two is letting it go. Now, there’s two ways that we can let it go. One, we can drop into acceptance over the way that the relationship is. It’s just fine. This is the relationship I have with my sister. It’s not what I want, but it’s fine. I accept it and I’m not willing to put in time and energy right now and we don’t have to decide for forever. But like right now, that person’s not gonna get my extra time and energy to improve this relationship. So I’m just gonna accept it the way that it is. And the second version of letting it go is to either set boundaries or cut it off Where we put up some roadblocks and we say, All right, I’m willing to be friends up to this point. If you treat me like this, if you talk to me like this, it’s a no fly zone. Or to just say, I’m not going to pursue this relationship right now. Now sometimes you can just do that without having to communicate it. You can just say, You know what? This relationship, I’m just gonna let it kind of fade into the background. I think that’s particularly true of friendships or distant family relationships. That’s kind of happened with my brother a little bit and his wife and I really love them, but they have pretty much opposite political, religious, spiritual, all that beliefs as we do. And they live eight hours away. And so I think fondly of them, but also I know that we’re probably not gonna hang out in person a ton. And so ever since we moved eight hours away, it just has kind of slowly faded into the background. I’m not angry, I’m not upset, but I also am not putting in the time to say, Hey, let’s, you know, let’s pack up our families and meet each other in each other’s cities. But I will probably call them on Thanksgiving and be like, I love you. How are you guys doing? How are the kids? Right? So to me that’s that kind of let it go category. And really it just means like let it be. The thing I’m letting go of though is worrying or chewing or stressing or judging. We wanna either commit to growing it and fixing it or working on it or just let it go. And so I want you to just recognize that this life is short. We don’t know what’s gonna happen. And maybe, maybe difficult things are coming, maybe Jesus is coming for the second, the second coming. Either way, your job is to have more peace. Your job is not to live in anxiety and fear and worry. And I don’t want you to live in no man’s land with these relationships either. Just decide. And it might be uncomfortable and it might be painful, but do you know what’s uncomfortable and painful? Living a life without peace? And no one’s doing that to you. You’re doing it to yourself. And so I just wanna give you a little bit of hope that you’re stronger than you think. The worst thing that can happen to you is a feeling. And you can have the best stinking holiday season you’ve ever had in your life this year if it used to be full of stress and chaos and crying and feeling rejected and unloved or frazzled. All of that is optional. That is my favorite kind of testimonial in Masters when somebody messages me and says, You know what? We used to go to my mom’s every year for Thanksgiving and it was terrible. And this year I went and I managed my mind and I had a good time. My mom didn’t change, the conversations didn’t change the way I talked to myself changed. That’s it, man. Let me just tell you, that’s just an incredible thing. And I know it’s incredible because I’ve had that experience in so many areas of my life. Things that used to just really be stressful or overwhelming to me. And now I just handle them. And so the last thing that I wanna leave you with After you’ve decided, you know, am I gonna work on this relationship? Am I not gonna work on this relationship, is this idea of telling your brain that you are safe. And I’ve talked about this before, but you’re gearing up, right? You’re gearing up for the holiday season, whatever that means for you and your family. For me, actually it doesn’t usually involve contentious family relationships. It actually for me involves sadness that we don’t have a lot of family. Most of the time I’m doing Christmas just with my husband and my kids. And so I am more prone to kind of spiral into depression and sadness around that. But even in that, I know that when I start to feel sad and I can feel it, my body right now, like even just thinking about that brings up all this sadness in my body. I just tell my brain, Hey, I love you and you’re safe. We’re creating our own family. You got this. Let’s plan something fun. Fun for you, fun for the kids. It’s okay that we don’t have a big family that looks great on a postcard and gets together and has a Rockefeller style picture. I was trying to think of a name of a family. And I don’t think Rockefeller is it, but I think you guys know what I mean. And so when you’re sitting in your car and you’re getting ready to go into a room or a home and it maybe isn’t what you wanted, maybe you’ll encounter people or you won’t. You’re gonna have a lot of thoughts and feelings. I don’t want you to negotiate with your brain and try to explain it all. Okay? There’s a moment for life coaching and then there’s a place where you just tell your brain you’re safe. I love you. You can handle this. And that’s all you have to do. That’s all you have to do. And then you know what? Eventually you’re not gonna be in that room. You’re gonna be in a different room or a different home, and you’re gonna feel safe again, and you’re gonna feel fine. We don’t have to fix everything every year. We don’t have to repair every relationship. That’s challenging. But my hope for you is that you do what I said in this episode, which is you either commit to working on the relationship or you kind of let it go. And letting it go just means letting go of the worry and the anxiety. And then you learn how to comfort yourself in moments of distress. Your only job in those moments of distress is to calm your nervous system down. I love you. You’re safe, you can handle this, you’re gonna be okay. And if you do that, you’re gonna have a much different experience of the holiday season. And if you wanna learn more about that, I’m gonna teach a class on Monday, November 14th in Masters. It’s part of our prepare the way curriculum. You know, we’re spending three months on teaching you guys how to have peace and it’s been amazing. And you know, if this is a big thing for you, just join Masters and come hang out with me on Monday. Raise your hand. Or you can even type anonymously into our Q and A box and you can say, Oh my goodness, I don’t see Sterling, how I could possibly have peace about this relationship. Let me tell you about it and I will coach you and I will help you to have peace. And I know it’s possible because Jesus says that it’s possible. And God never changes and he never lies. I love you guys so much. I love this podcast. I wish I could see you all in a room someday. I wish I could see all of you who listen because it’s such a personal relationship, even though I don’t get to see your face, isn’t it? And I take it really seriously that you come and that you listen. And I really pray and I really say, All right, Lord, what do they need to hear? And I hope it’s helpful. You know, we wanted to create a podcast that was life changing, that listening to this podcast could change your life. So if you have a friend who has a difficult, difficult relationship in their family, which is probably all of our friends , I don’t think I know of a friend who doesn’t have some contentious relationship in their life, I want you to send them this episode. Just say, You know what? God put it on my heart to send this to you, and let’s just help heal each other. Let’s help each other to have these tools. All right? Mamas the world offers you comfort that you were not made for comfort, you were Made for Greatness.
![Anxiety never comes from the Lord. So the second I feel that tightness show up in my chest, I already know something true about myself. I am thinking about my life in a way that God does not want me to think about it. Period. Because if I were thinking about it the way He wants me to, I would be at peace. This episode is one question I want you to start asking faster than you are asking it right now. Not "Lord, take this away," but "Lord, what do you want me to know about this?" About this toddler. About my husband. About my body. About this house. I asked Him something this morning and He said, "You already know. You just doubt what I have already told you." Ooh, burn, Lord. We talk about why we are not reaching for Him sooner (we do not actually believe we could be at peace all the time), the grace you have to ask for before He hands it to you, what Fulton Sheen was doing in basically every talk he ever gave, and why Daniel in the lions' den and Mary at the foot of the cross were both at peace. WHAT WE COVER IN THIS EPISODE: The micro moment prayer: the second you notice tightness, throw your hands up and say "Lord, I invite you into this. Come be with me right now." Why anxiety is information and not a verdict. It tells you your thinking is off, not that your life is off The real reason we do not run to Him faster: we have never met a person who is at peace all the time, so we quietly decided it is not available to us Eight out of ten minutes. You will lose it. The win is how fast you come back Feeling powerless is the worst feeling there is, and being able to stay calm in any situation is one of the most powerful You are not done when you hear the sentence. Your job is to practice it, or your brain will spiral right back in two hours The gifts of the Holy Spirit were designed to be asked for. Wisdom, counsel, knowledge, understanding, fortitude, fear of the Lord. Ask Being at peace does not mean being peaceful. It means receiving. It means "this is okay right now and I can handle it" The surprise pregnancy test, the teenager going through it, the adult child who left the Church. You can be at peace today, in that EPISODE TIMELINE: (estimated at 5-minute marks, no timestamps in the transcript, confirm against audio) [00:00] – Hope when you feel anxious, trapped, stuck or frozen, and inviting the Lord into the micro moment [05:00] – "Lord, what do you want me to know about this?" Why anxiety never comes from Him, and what Mary has to do with our unbelief [10:00] – Eight out of ten minutes, and why staying calm is the most powerful you will ever feel [15:00] – Cheeky Jesus, the sentences He actually gives me, and writing them down so I can practice them [20:00] – My real morning (I do not pray first thing), redirecting my brain, and asking for grace and the gifts of the Holy Spirit [25:00] – Fulton Sheen, the beatification, and why all his talks end the same way. At peace is not peaceful. Daniel, Mary, Joseph and the donkey [30:00] – Who I belong to, true freedom, and an invitation to the Catholic Mom Reset LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED: Join the Catholic Mom Reset: www.catholicmomcalm.com/reset Fulton Sheen beatification, plus the conference with Arthur Brooks the day before (Sterling will have a table, come say hi): www.fultonsheenconference.com/ CONNECT WITH STERLING JAQUITH: Website: https://catholicmomcalm.com Connect on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catholicmomcalm](https://catholicmomcalm.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/CMC_Podcast_Ep_271_13-300x300.png)
![I am team planning. I am team house systems. We teach it in the membership and it is the very first thing we tackle in the Catholic Mom Reset, because looking at your next 90 days and making a plan is genuinely a gift to your future self. But if you took all of it away tomorrow, dropped me in a different house in a different town with no idea what the next 90 days held, I would be okay. I could walk around and have peace. That is the part I want for you. A lot of women tell me they are type A planners. There is a healthy version of that. There is also a version that gets built in a childhood full of chaos you could not control, or in a home where performing well was how you got love and attention. Both of those grow up into a woman who plans beautifully, and one of them is holding on with an iron grip. This episode is how to tell which one you are running on, the five minute healing work that sets the grip down, and the sentence I said to a mom on a coaching call that changed her whole face. WHAT WE COVER IN THIS EPISODE: Why the plan is not what makes you feel calm (you make a plan, then you think "I have a plan," and the thought is what creates safety in your body) The two childhoods that produce a hyper-planner: chaos you had no control over, and love you had to earn by performing The difference between planning that feels light and playful and planning you believe you cannot survive without Abraham walking up the mountain and the Israelites who never got the itinerary, and what peace looked like for both Tolerating uncertainty is a capacity you can grow, the same way a kid grows from 37 seconds to a minute and a half underwater The five minute memory work I use, sitting in the theater with the Lord while He tells you the truth about what really happened What I told the mom who was afraid that moving every two years would rob her kids of roots and stability EPISODE TIMELINE: [00:00] – Why I wanted to do this episode, and why I am solidly team planning and team systems [05:00] – All brains hate uncertainty, the AI conversation nobody can predict, and the skill we can actually grow [10:00] – Your body feels your thinking, not your plan. The Israelites, and Abraham on the mountain [15:00] – The car breaks down. The husband's job might move you. How to answer your own brain [20:00] – Chaos versus performance, the grounded healthy version of you, and asking the Lord what we are doing today [25:00] – Bob Schuchts, inner child work, and revisiting a memory with Jesus in five minutes [30:00] – "You are their mom. You bring roots and stability everywhere you go." Protocols, and week one of the Reset LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED: The Catholic Mom Reset (starts Sunday, September 6th, first live call Thursday, September 10th) Bob Schuchts books Brya Hannan book on inner child healing (do one chapter a month, it is deep work) Restore the Glory podcast with Bob Schuchts and Jake Khym Calm Catholic Kids: https://calmcatholickids.com CONNECT WITH STERLING JAQUITH: Website: https://catholicmomcalm.com Connect on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catholicmomcalm](https://catholicmomcalm.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/CMC_Podcast_Ep_271_12-300x300.png)
!["People love change. They just hate transition." I heard Matthew Kelly teach that years ago and I think about it every single August. Because right now I'm getting a hundred emails from the school, two of my boys walked out today in socks with giant holes in the heels, and there's a lunchbox in this house that will not zip. If your body is fritzing out over start dates and supply lists and shoe sizes, nothing has gone wrong. You're not in the change yet. You're in the transition, and I want to give you the exact words to say to your own brain while you're standing in the middle of it. Plus a summer update: our little red golden retriever, the sickness that took my husband down, walking in 87 degrees on purpose, 200 Fulton Sheen rosaries, and the press-on nails I just ordered off an internet ad. WHAT WE COVER IN THIS EPISODE: Why change and transition are two different things, and why the yucky feeling belongs to the transition and not to your decision What to tell your brain when it starts second-guessing (the feeling is bad, so the choice must be wrong) and why that's backwards Who you are in a transition is not who you're going to be, whether that's back-to-school or pregnancy or a move you didn't choose The two weeks plus two weeks rhythm I use: get ready, live it, evaluate at the end of the day, tweak, then settle into the change Giving equal air time, because your brain will spend all day on what could go wrong and about nine seconds on what you're excited about The folder-and-calendar hack that keeps the school email avalanche from hanging over you every hour of the day Looking for what was good in a hard season, even when the good thing is just the timing of it EPISODE TIMELINE: [00:00] – Mid-August, the nesting itch, and going from wild open summer to ordered fall [05:00] – Annie Avonlea, a sickness that hit everyone one at a time, and what was actually good about it [10:00] – Walking in the heat on purpose, France prep, and giving equal air time to the excitement [15:00] – Making Fulton Sheen rosaries, why moms need work that gets finished, and yes, the press-on nails [20:00] – "People love change. They just hate transition." The emails, the socks, the lunchbox that won't zip [25:00] – Talking to your brain in the transition, and the four weeks it actually takes to settle [30:00] – The email folder hack, and having peace today in the middle of all of it LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED: Join the Catholic Mom Reset: www.catholicmomcalm.com/reset Calm Catholic Kids: https://calmcatholickids.com Fulton Sheen beatification conference: https://fultonsheenconference.com/ CONNECT WITH STERLING JAQUITH ON INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/catholicmomcalm](https://catholicmomcalm.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/CMC_Podcast_Ep_271_11-1-300x300.png)